Move to github?

Added by Karel Bilek 8 months ago

Hello,

would you be considering moving to github (from both redmine and gitlab), to get more developers attention?

I feel like on github, there is more activity and easier collaboration due to removing friction and familiarity.

I understand that redmine and gitlab are free software, but since it's on your server, as a user I don't particularly care, and I think more active community would mean safer system. It wouldn't make the code less free.


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RE: Move to github? - Added by Thomas Kitchin 8 months ago

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RE: Move to github? - Added by Karel Bilek 8 months ago

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RE: Move to github? - Added by Alex Yst 8 months ago

Moving to Github means supporting nonfree software. While using a nonfree service on a server that you don't own is better than using nonfree software on your own machine, it should be avoided, especially when viable free server options are available and especially when the project is supposed to be free. Replicant puts an emphasis on freedom, not open sourceness, which means that moving to Github would be hypocritical.

If Replicant called itself an open source project, it would make sense to move to Github to enjoy more benefits of open source. However, as it labels itself as a free software project, it should employ free software tools such as Redmine instead in order to enjoy the full benefits of (and emphasize the need for) freedom.

RE: Move to github? - Added by Kurtis Hanna 8 months ago

Yeah, github is not free software and I don't support moving to it. I do, however, support moving away from redmine.

https://taiga.io and https://gitlab.com/ are both free software and seem to be much better than the current setup.

What version of redmine is even running here, anyways? It says 2006-2011 at the bottom, which suggests to me that it is maybe running a 5 year old version of redmine.

I think that osuosl.org hosts the email list and the forum, if I'm not mistaken. Would we have to convince them to make the change?

Please look at tree.taiga.io and tell me that it isn't a much better user experience than what we have right now.

To top it off, there's an easy way to migrate all of this redmine data to taiga: https://taigaio.github.io/redmine-migrator/

RE: Move to github? - Added by Alex Yst 8 months ago

It's very important to differentiate GitLab the website (comparable to GitHub) and GitLab the software (comparable to Redmine). GitLab the website uses nonfree software for their hosting as well, so like GitHub, we shouldn't move there. It's a shame that GitLab bought out and closed down Gitorious; Gitorious hosted using free software.

As for GitLab the software, it comes in two flavors. One is free, but the other isn't. If we're self-hosting with GitLab or finding a GitLab host, we need to be careful and make sure that the free version of the software is being used.

RE: Move to github? - Added by Kurtis Hanna 8 months ago

I am not advocating for Replicant to move to a non-free software option. I was unaware that GitLab's hosted option is non-free. I was suggesting that we maybe just ask https://osuosl.org if they are running the most current version of Redmine and if they could evaluate Taiga and the free software version of GitLab as possible redmine replacements.

RE: Move to github? - Added by Kurtis Hanna 8 months ago

It seems like they forgot to list Replicant here: https://osuosl.org/communities

Might be another thing to talk to them about.

RE: Move to github? - Added by robin p 8 months ago

Kurtis Hanna wrote:

Yeah, github is not free software and I don't support moving to it. I do, however, support moving away from redmine.

https://taiga.io and https://gitlab.com/ are both free software and seem to be much better than the current setup.

What version of redmine is even running here, anyways? It says 2006-2011 at the bottom, which suggests to me that it is maybe running a 5 year old version of redmine.

I think that osuosl.org hosts the email list and the forum, if I'm not mistaken. Would we have to convince them to make the change?

Please look at tree.taiga.io and tell me that it isn't a much better user experience than what we have right now.

To top it off, there's an easy way to migrate all of this redmine data to taiga: https://taigaio.github.io/redmine-migrator/

while we're on the topic, gogs may be better than gitlab and redmine. it's much slimmer, has a git interface and all sorts of other web goodness. free software too, very easy to host on your own infrastructure.

i think github is a bad idea, it's far too centralised and thus anti free software.

https://github.com/gogits/gogs/

RE: Move to github? - Added by Alex Yst 8 months ago

Gogs seems pretty cool. Both of the source code hosts that I use for my own projects host using Gogs.

RE: Move to github? - Added by Loic Dachary 7 months ago

I oppose moving to github because it cannot be self hosted and it is proprietary software.

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