- [x] Test instance - We find a way to install mediawiki somehow and we do the install but we don't use it officially yet
like there would be no users accounts, so migration scripts can be tested.
- [ ] Migrating off Redmine - When everything is ready we'd disable wiki editions in redmine and enable account creation in mediawiki and announce it
- [ ] Use migration-scripts developed in-house for the creation of a git repository with all the history preserved
- [ ] Use pandoc ":https://pandoc.org/" code-base to convert from textile to mediawiki (or a markdown derivative if we end up going that route), including child/parent structure of the articles, to transfer all articles to new mediawiki installation.
- [ ] Use git-mw remote to prevent the loss of history, by recreating past contributors and editors accounts, so we make sure that smaller contributors don't get forgotten (alternatively look into "ActiveResource" has a simple way to solve the history issue, in order to get timestamps, use https://github.com/CyberTech/WikiText_to_RedMine_Migration as reference)
- [ ] Check if mmigration was sucessfull, with shell command diff, and using export of the whole wiki for comparing. For that use either simple script like https://stbuehler.de/blog/article/2011/06/04/exporting_redmine_wiki_pages.html, or we could also use the redmine plugin https://github.com/eugene-sy/redmine_wiki_hierarchical_export but we might need to contact server admins for that.
- [ ] use sphynx like skin for mediawiki (nice userfriendly implementation of mediawiki https://wiki.trezor.io/ ant there is good information on skining in https://supertuxkart.net/Maintaining_the_Wiki)
- [ ] Contact the Archive team to backup the redmine's wiki
- [ ] Make sure it gets archived completely on archive.org/web
- [ ] Make sure it gets archived in files that can be restored (but without non public information like password hashes, etc)
The documentation on the Redmine wiki has lot of duplication of information.The solution that has been choosen for that is the following:
- Migrate part of the information in Wikidata.
- Use template and/or generate information from Wikidata.
Other solutions were also possible such as migrating to documentation system like pandoc, but doing that would increase a lot the required skills of potential contributors.Using complicated documentation systems has several issues:
- Practically speaking, it makes it impossible for many people that don't know how to program, to participate in Replicant, fix issues etc. This would be very problematic for diversity and inclusiveness of people as it would unnecessarily discriminate against people without such skills. We could also potentially loose important contributions.
- While it would make the job of contributors way easier than without any templating or ways to programmatically generate documentation, it also increase the dependency on people who knows how to use that documentation system.
Instead it would be better to use a documentation system that enable people without programming skills to easily contribute, while at the same time enabling people with programming skills to take advantage of it as well. Templates in various wikis system like Redmine or Mediawiki enables that.In additions to wiki systems with templates, enabling to interface the documentation system with Wikidata also has many advantages:
- It enables to reuse the information across different projects with similar goals (libreplanet wiki, Parabola wiki), different goals (for instance we could share the work of documenting hardware with the wikipedia and wikidata community), or through custom made tools.
- It can isolate the tasks requiring some programming to the strict minimum: Using programming in documentation systems can makes it easy to generate huge quantity of information, and Wikidata makes it possible to contribute to the information itself without knowing how to program. The programming is then potentially only required to fetch and show / format the information that comes from Wikidata.
- The table syntax of Redmine textile format is too complicated for several key contributors like dllud.
- It's probably hard to interface with Wikidata
- The syntax is less well known and the documentation is available on Redmine website but harder to find.
- No one seem to know the syntax for the templating system nor its limits yet.
- Can be interfaced with Wikidata in various ways that are used in production on Wikipedia.
- The syntax is easy enough to use by people that don't know how to program, many people are used to it, and at the same time it's well documented.
- The table format is much easier to use, and it's usable by dllud.
- Other projects like Libreplanet, and Parabola uses mediawiki, so we can probably reuse things across different wikis.
- Can be used offline thanks to projects like Kiwix
- Can be more easily backuped by external projects like the archive team
- We can probably reuse many templates from other wikis with compatible licensing, and some Replicant contributors like GNUtoo already know a bit the template language.
- There are probably many more tools compatible with mediawiki than the Redmine wiki.
- We need to migrate, if possible in a way that preserves history
- We loose the integration with redmine #<bug number> and will have to address this during the migration
At several conferences, including the Replicant conference in Paris in Summer 2019, and the FOSDEM, people were in favor of migrating to Mediawiki and didn't have objections to it.
It looks like some Redmine developers have recently been working to make it easier to transition from Textile to both generic Markdown and a more standardized flavor of Markdown called CommonMark: https://www.redmine.org/issues/32424 https://www.redmine.org/plugins/redmine_reformat https://github.com/orchitech/redmine_reformat https://hub.docker.com/r/orchitech/redmine-gfm
There is currently an RFC at MediaWiki about supporting CommonMark in MediaWiki natively: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Markdown
The comments section of MediaWiki's RFC page on this topic may be helpful to read for context on this proposal.
If we can find a reliable fork of MediaWiki that uses CommonMark instead of Wikitext, we should at least consider using it for the reasons outlined in the MediaWiki RFC links above and because of the fact that we now seem to have reliable software available to us to transition from Textile to CommonMark.
If we ultimately decide to use vanilla MediaWiki with Wikitext, or if we don't find any forks of Mediawiki that use CommonMark instead of Textile, it is our assumption that it would be easier to transition from the more common Markdown or CommonMark markup languages to MediaWiki's Wikitext markup language than it would be to transition from Textile directly to Wikitext. This assumption has been made based, in part, on arguments made here: https://hub.docker.com/r/orchitech/redmine-gfm
Interfacing with Wikidata¶
Wikidata has documetation that claims that1:
The access to Wikidata data is currently restricted to the Wikimedia projects, because of technical limitations. If you have your own instance of MediaWiki, you can't use Wikidata's data using these features. However, you can set up your own Wikibase instance and use data from there in the same way.
So here are some of the options we have:
- So we will either need to host our own Wikibase at the beginning or find another system to access the data.
- We could also just write a program that generates wiki pages and update that with git.
- We could also use an SQL interface to Wikidata and somehow hook that to mediawiki.
We also don't know the size of the database dumps as they are compressed2:
latest-all.json.bz2 28-Dec-2022 16:28 79404778391
latest-all.json.gz 04-Jan-2023 11:23 120635974570
Though Replicant source code is already big (more than 400GiB) so depending on how much space it takes it might not be a big issue.
Though we might need to have the FSF to host it in order to enable other FSDG distributions to access it.
Here's a list of what other distro use:
|Wiki or distro
|No wiki found
|No wiki found
|Has unofficial space on Libreplanet
|GFDL 1.3+ with copyright assignment 
|Mediawiki with statemets disabled.
|GFDL 1.3+ with copyright assignment 
|Mediawiki with statemets disabled8.
|No Wiki? Has traces of an old wiki.
|Migration planned to Mediawiki.
|No wiki found
1 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:How_to_use_data_on_Wikimedia_projects#Can_I_access_Wikidata_data_from_my_wiki? Note that the '?' is part of the URL and that redmine has a bug with URLs ending with a '?'.
6 Content is available under GNU Free Documentation License 1.3. By contributing to any page on this wiki, you agree to assign copyright for your contribution to the Free Software Foundation (see LibrePlanet:Copyrights for details). The Free Software Foundation promises to always use either a verbatim copying license or a free documentation license when publishing your contribution. We grant you back all your rights under copyright, including the rights to copy, modify, and redistribute your contributions. You are also promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it from a public domain or similar free resource. DO NOT SUBMIT COPYRIGHTED WORK WITHOUT PERMISSION!
for usage parameters and variables use https://github.com/likema/redmine-exporter has reference
look into this for inspiration https://github.com/vile/redmine2confluence-wiki